Q. I’ll ask you the short question to set up my main question, but is it as jarring for you to see Penn State at 0-4 as it is for probably the rest of us?
KIRK FERENTZ: Yeah, just doesn’t add up, especially when you watch the film. Doesn’t add up. Football, you’ve heard me say before, football is a strange game. You just can’t predict everything that’s going to happen.
Q. Okay. That asked, how thin is the line in your sport? You look at Northwestern, 1-8 last year and you see what they are doing last year and at the other end, Penn State and Michigan, considered national powers, struggling like crazy. How do you keep the even keel? What happens to make those things happen at either end?
KIRK FERENTZ: The first answer is I don’t know; this year is going to have an asterisk next to it. We are all competing, we are all playing pretty much by the same rules, but as we know it, region to region, things are different. With the virus right now, you really don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. You don’t know if a team has had, you know, X amount of guys out and all those kind of pieces of information really, they are not out there.
So you know, to go through what all of us have gone through the last couple months, it’s very hard to describe. It’s just been very different, very unusual. I just think that casts a shadow over this whole season quite frankly. If you have an awesome team and you’ve got all kinds of depth, then it’s really not that big a deal and there’s a handful of teams like that in the country, but I think once you get past that group of people, it’s really hard to say what’s going to happen or predict what’s going to happen. You’ve got to kind of throw that out.
As far as Northwestern goes, in my opinion, it’s kind of like the record Penn State has right now. Northwestern wasn’t that far away last year, in my opinion. But they are just kind of missing a little bit, something, and you know, we talked when we played them about them picking up the quarterback, a perfect fit for their operation, it’s just that little variable to get over the top sometimes, and that’s not surprising. They do a great job up there and they have for quite some time.
It’s kind of almost two different discussions in some ways, but there’s just a lot of strange things going on this year, and I’ll go out on a limb and say there’s going to be more strange things here in the next six to eight weeks.
Q. Couple housekeeping things. Coy Cronk, John Wagner, what’s your situation with middle linebacker this week, you played two series each for Jack and Seth. Are you going to continue to do that?
KIRK FERENTZ: I’ll start there. Probably. We haven’t had that discussion yet, but Jack’s only a week plus into it now so it’s not like his conditioning base is all that good. We would like to have him for the rest of the season so we are going to try to be careful there plus he and Seth are playing really well. I would anticipate both them playing.
We don’t expect John to be ready this week and Coy did start working yesterday morning. I don’t want to judge him yet. We’ve had two days on the field. Hopefully he’ll be able to help us a little but we’ll see what it looks like tomorrow and see what it looks like on Friday.
Q. When you look at Tyler Linderbaum at center, you’ve had some success moving defensive players or wanting to move defensive players. I remember I think you wanted Aaron Kampman to play center and it didn’t work out, but your son was a terrific defensive tackle at City High and he’s still in the NFL. At what point in that first year or a couple years ago did you look at Tyler and go, you know what, that might be his best spot and kind of have a soft spot for centers as it is?
KIRK FERENTZ: First of all, Aaron Kampman probably wouldn’t talk to me today if I had done that. I’m glad we didn’t make that suggestion. I kept that one to myself. I guess not to myself, and not so sure in the media, too. But anyway, we didn’t make that decision, ended up being an all-pro defensive player, and what a great player he was.
The point there is the leadership qualities that he possessed and just his motor, his just desire that he played with on play-in and play-out, those are good desirable traits for a guy who is in the middle on the offensive line.
In James’ case he is six-foot. He’ll tell you 6-1 but he’s six-foot. So what else is he going to do? It’s one position you can play where you’re not maybe as tall enough to get on the roller coasters at Kennywood Park. That’s what it is.
But with Tyler, starting in high school, we all are in agreement, had a brainstorm on that one, we all were in agreement this guy is just a really good football player both sides of the ball. Good athlete in other sports as well. Wrestling, baseball. He’s a football player that’s got a rat, great love for the game and great love for his teammates and great leader in high school and certainly has been a good leader here.
It was kind of a natural, as I said before, if we had three of them, we’d had him playing center and the other two guys would be playing guards and he would be playing defense or tackle. He’s one of those football players that can do a lot of things and he’s just a delight to have on the team.
Q. You had the opportunity to see Clifford in action last season, however, he was benched at halftime Nebraska and Will Levies relieved him. Is there anything that stood out to you from Levies to you on film or scouting report that you had an opportunity to see?
KIRK FERENTZ: We actually had him in camp here. We might have been the first Power Five offer that he had, I’m pretty sure I’m correct in saying that. He was interested and enamored until Penn State offered him. That was the end of that relationship; and I say that jokingly. He’s a first-class young man and that was a delight to get to know a little bit.
We have very high regard for him back before his senior year in high school, so it comes as no surprise to us that he’s a about player and Clifford is a good football player, too. I don’t know if they have made an announcement who is going to start. We fully expect Clifford to start. If not, they are both good players and they are both capable of running and throwing and that makes them tough to defend.
Q. You mentioned Penn State 0-4; that something that you have to guard against and your team not overlooking a team that’s 0-4 and thinking, hey, we can just roll into Happy Valley and roll past these guys?
KIRK FERENTZ: I thought about that a little bit and all you have to do is look at the film, and if that doesn’t get your attention, because as I mentioned, it’s been this way for, what’s it, 22 years I’ve been back here now, but I go back to 1980, that was my first trip there as a coach. I was a grad assistant. I can’t remember ever being on the field where their guys don’t look good and play well and play hard and they are good at every position.
So when our guys look at the film, unless they are just delusional, they are seeing what we are seeing, guys that are a lot of good football players, things are not quite just clicking yet and my guess is it’s going to at some point. I just hope it isn’t this Saturday.
We have to prepare. We haven’t beaten these guys there in a decade, right. That’s a long time and there’s a reason for that. They are a good football team. We are going to have to be at our best to have a chance to win.
Q. This has been a difficult year for everybody and doing everything, you’ve got COVID, what happened over the summer and even into the fall, last week some former players filed a lawsuit, you have supporters who have withdrawn their support because of kneel. How difficult has this been for you on a personal level to try to coach your team when you have all these different factors, that confluence happening at the same time?
KIRK FERENTZ: It’s kind of like my whole life I guess. The thing I’ve enjoyed the most in my life is coaching, outside of my family. I enjoyed teaching when I was a teacher, and I became functionally illiterate in 1980 when I went to college coaching but I’ve enjoyed every bit of it.
Part of it is just because you’re in a society, if you will, or a group, where everybody is kind of like-minded and we are all trying to do the same thing, so it’s just something we all enjoy. I think the people that play it, the people that work it, you do it because you really enjoy it and that’s your No. 1 reason for doing it. You know, kind of gives you some balance, I guess, in some ways, but the other part about it, the things you mentioned, I mean if you learn anything in life, life comes at you. Robert Frost, “life goes on,” that was his quote and I would add to it that life comes at you.
Nothing stays the same. Nothing’s static. Life’s not static by any chance, if you’re living, if you’re doing something. You try to deal with everything that comes your way as smart as you can. We’ve had the things happen that you’ve probably referenced and you just try to deal with it on a day-to-day basis, do the best you can and when you get up in the morning, you try to do the same thing over again. That’s what you do and if you’re around good people on a daily basis, it makes things a lot easier and that’s one thing I’ve always taken solace, very fortunate in my life to be around good people in my network, if you will, whether it’s personal life or everywhere I’ve coached. Particularly the 30 years here, we’ve had good people around us and good people that have been through this program that are supportive, and, to me, that’s the beauty of sport.
Q. You have a couple of kids from Cedar Rapids, who are just students that have helped, and one works directly with Brian. I don’t think a lot of people know about what these kids do, maybe what their importance is to the program and what do you hope that they get out of their situation?
KIRK FERENTZ: Hopefully it’s a good experience for them. We had a guy 15-17 years ago, who graduated from the Wharton Business School, and is working in New York City, never left there. He took a sabbatical and came here for a season, it was 2002, I believe and at the end of the year he said that was the most valuable class he was ever been involved in. I was like, holy smokes, you’ve been wasting a lot of money or something is delusional there.
But all these guys that help out, young guys that are student assistant or whatever, they just have a love for the game like we do, and so it’s a way for them to make contributions and help the coaches with paperwork, statistics, all those kinds of things. They can’t actually necessarily be out there coaching but they can do things to help around the office, help with recruiting. It’s a good life experience for them especially if they are trying to figure out if they want to get into this profession. That part is great.
But that’s one of the neat things about this guy that I used to teach with, John Bridge was here back in ’99. He was more of a basketball guy. He was amazed how many people were involved, and obviously everybody’s football organizations have grown since 1999. But how many people just help make this thing move forward.
I think about that a lot. You think about our student managers, the work that they do, it’s unbelievable. It’s extremely impressive. If you had a business in the private sector you would hire those guys because I tell you, they get up early, they work hard, they stay up late and we get back from a road trip like Saturday and you’re unpacking things, but my point there is a lot of people have helped make the organization be successful. It not just the players and the coaches. They are out there in front but there’s a lot of people working and I think they all find value in what they do, otherwise they wouldn’t do it, because they are certainly not getting paid very much if anything.