Q. This is the second straight game you have to prepare for two different quarterbacks. Is it different this week in any way than it was last week when you look at the similarities or differences?
KIRK FERENTZ: Yes and no. I would answer it this way off the top of my head. The systems are very different, right? I think with Penn State, what they do with their quarterback, we kind of feel like both quarterbacks were equally dangerous. We had a lot of respect for both of them.
I would not compare Nebraska’s scheme necessarily to Penn State’s in the X’s and O’s part. I would compare it that both quarterbacks are again very dangerous. They can hurt you maybe in a different way than the guys from Penn State hurt you. Getting hurt is getting hurt, doesn’t matter how it is.
Both these guys are capable of making plays with their feet, with their arm and their head. It’s one of those deals where there’s a lot of pressure on your defense at every position because both these quarterbacks can run, they can get outside and throw it, they can get outside and run it. That makes it a big challenge for us.
Q. It’s been a long time since you beat three Big Ten teams as thoroughly as you have the last three weeks. Why is this happening?
KIRK FERENTZ: We’re playing better. I mean, that’s probably the simple answer. When you’re playing better, you have a chance.
Like I said, even last week, score ended up being a pretty good gap. If you look at the stats, they’re pretty close. If you’re at the game, I don’t think any of us on our side were feeling overly confident in that fourth quarter. They had us right there in a really vulnerable position. All they needed to do was score, get an on-side kick, they’re knocking right on the door. In the conference, you can’t relax. We did have a chance maybe a couple weeks before.
I can assure you, nobody in our camp saw it coming in either case. Sometimes it just happens. I think it’s a credit to our guys playing better football. I think our guys are for the most part staying focused for the full 60 minutes. That sometimes is easier said than done.
Q. You guys have really controlled the line of scrimmage on both sides against Nebraska the last five meetings. How important has that been to the outcome? How do you explain your dominance there?
KIRK FERENTZ: I don’t know if ‘dominance’ is the word. We’ve done some good things up front. They’ve had some good things happen to them, too.
The bottom line is, especially these last two years, it’s literally come down to that last play. There’s nothing easy. This won’t be easy. We know that. They’re going to come in here ready to go.
The other factor is I don’t think home or away matters. We expect it to be a really tough, hard-fought game. Sounds like the weather is going to be decent. That’s good. It gets down to the team that probably makes the least amount of mistakes, doesn’t give up easy things, easy plays, can play the full game.
There’s no boxes checked right now on our side. We’re going to have to go out and try to play better than we have the last couple weeks. The score was good last week, but there were a lot of things we left the door open on. Have to get that taken of here a little quicker.
I can think of a pass play we didn’t have covered, luckily the quarterback didn’t get there. Or that scenario I just described might have happened where all of a sudden it’s a six-point game and they’re on-side kicking. We’ve been a little lucky, too. I just hate to rely on luck.
Q. When you look at Cody Ince, he’s a bear hunter from Wisconsin, can dunk a basketball, seems pretty athletic. What did he show you to make you think he could be a good guard? How has he improved over the last couple weeks to put himself to be in a position to put himself on the field?
KIRK FERENTZ: I don’t know about the bear hunter part. I’m more interested in him being a blocker. Anyway, he’s a great young guy, great family. I knew he was an outdoors guy. Didn’t know that.
We talked a couple minutes ago about those freshmen that are on our pseudo-two deep. Cody is probably a good example of those guys, right? With all due respect, those guys aren’t ready to play 60-70 snaps right now. Cody certainly wasn’t.
We could see right off the bat he had the potential to become a good lineman here. He’s had some serious injury issues the last couple of years. When I say ‘serious’, not life-threatening, but the kind of that take you out of the mix for weeks or even months sometimes. So it’s hard to get better. It’s hard to develop, work your craft when you’re just watching from the sidelines. You can work the mental part. So I think some of his growth has been impeded that way.
This year, again, I was going to say training camp, such a weird year, but we could just see him probably start gaining some ground, get a little confidence. First of all, he’s been able to stay healthy, knock on wood, sustain some practices together.
He’s just kind of developing and growing. That’s what we hope those true freshmen we talked about a little while ago are going to do as well.
Cody is a talented guy. I think he could play all five positions. Haven’t said that about many players that have come here. I think he probably could. Also he didn’t have five or six weeks of practice. I think he is starting to develop a little bit of that. He’s starting to realize he can play successfully, maybe a little bit better than that even with more work.
I don’t want to speak for him, but I think he’s pretty excited about that. Seems like he’s been doing a good job. He does it in a quiet fashion, a quiet young guy. That’s kind of how he works, kind of how he plays. The end product is pretty good.
Q. It’s easy for us to see how well Goodson and Sargent are playing. What do you think has made them so effective this year?
KIRK FERENTZ: I think we’re playing better as an entire team. That helps. But both of them, they’re both a year older. Mekhi has played a lot of good football here, right. Tyler got off to a good start last year as a first-year guy.
Time on the field and time in the program, time practicing, training, all those things add up to maybe giving yourself a chance to be a better player as you get older. That’s how it’s supposed to work. Both those guys are illustrations of doing that.
The commonality between both of them is they have great attitudes, great guys on the team. I’m sure they have off days and all that, but they don’t bring it out to the field. They’re positive out there. They like football. They both do, they really like football. Mekhi, it’s interesting, I’m not trying to knock a junior college, any junior college program, he came from Iowa Western. Great program, unbelievable facilities. Way better than we had at Maine, I can tell you.
He has a real appreciation for being in a Division I program where there’s a training table, all those kinds of things. A lot less bus rides than coaching at Iowa Western or Maine. You got those bus rides in front of you. He appreciates every day, a tremendous guy.
Mekhi is playing great on special teams, too. I think that gives you a window, both he and Ivory Kelly-Martin are playing really well on special teams. They’re doing it because they want to do it. That’s a really good sign. That’s part of the reason we’re having success right now. Two guys that can be starting right now. Playing special teams, they’re good at them all.
Q. It’s an interesting year all the way around for a million reasons. The eligibility question that all of your players, this is a free year per se. I’m sure each and every one of them has a different story. Have you had any kind of conversations with the players or staff about which ones may come back, which ones might want to come back, which ones won’t? How has that gone so far?
KIRK FERENTZ: As staff we probably spent about three minutes last week talking about it. It’s probably about two minutes too long.
I interviewed all of our seniors back, man, before one of our starts. I guess it would have been in September probably, late September, before we actually got going again. That was probably a waste of time, too. Things change every day. How people think, how they’re seeing things. None of us knew what this season was going to be. We still don’t know how the next four weeks are going to go. Glad we got a practice in. Happy about that today. That’s how we’re all looking at the world right now, tight focus.
The good news is it dawned on my last week that players aren’t going to be here in January, we can’t recruit in January, so I guess we have a lot of time to think about stuff like that. God only knows what else we’ll be doing.
It’s going to be kind of weird. This whole thing, just one more step in the process. It’s a great point. We’ll figure it out whenever it’s appropriate. The answer I can give you for the players, the picture will become more clear here over the next six, eight weeks, where they kind of see what the landscape looks like for them.
Q. With the uniqueness of the season, how has that changed things for the younger guys in the program, the true freshmen, in terms of the weekly routine, their preparation?
KIRK FERENTZ: I can’t say enough about these freshmen, the first-year guys. That goes back to June. I think they’re the ones who have paid the biggest price, me personally. Maybe the older guys on a mental side because they’re looking at what should be their senior year, third, fourth year in the program where they kind of got the routine down, all that.
If you think about our freshmen, typically they come in in June, they’re plugged in, six hours of class, they’re training on a regular basis, six hours of class where they’re actually interfacing with other students, getting to know their way around town, all that kind of stuff.
These guys got here, got locked up in the dorm basically. Everybody’s social life… The academic, we pulled the plug on academics, the university did, for obvious reasons. The first-year guys weren’t in school this summer. They trained, came over, trained, then went home.
I felt really badly for them. Not like we could do any team functions or things like that because of the virus. Everything was virtual, that type of stuff.
Can’t say enough about these guys. They don’t seem to be affected by it. They just kind of have been day after day, show up, good attitude, they work hard. As I mentioned earlier, alluded to earlier, we’re really pleased with the whole group, a really good group of guys. I don’t want to say it was a poorly designed summer, but you would never design one like this intentionally unless you didn’t like the people you were doing it for.
They’ve been positive guys. All work hard. Show up, great to be around. Really anxious to get them into the normal world, whenever that time comes. It will be really good.
I think they’ve paid the biggest price, I really do. Hopefully this will be the last year like this where it’s just so restricted in every regard.
But they’ve stayed the course, same with our older guys. Like anything you do in life, right? Situations arise, you just try to deal with them the best way you can. There’s no sense worrying about it or crying about it, complaining about it because it is what’s it is and you try to deal with it, support each other. All our guys have done a good job of that.
Q. It seemed like Spencer is starting to settle in more to his role at quarterback. Two of his better passes of the season. How have you kind of seen Spencer progress over the last couple weeks? Do you think that Saturday was a step in right direction for him?
KIRK FERENTZ: It sounds like there’s been a lot of chatter on that topic the last couple weeks. As I tried to say earlier, we’ve had a lot of first-year quarterbacks play pretty well here historically. All those guys got to go through a normal spring, 15 days of practice over four and a half weeks. A lot of time to meet, digest, watch tape, run the offense hands on, make mistakes, all those things. Then they have the luxury of having the entire summer to do their seven-on-sevens with their teammates. Watch film, spring ball, watch the horrible throws they make, all that stuff that everybody does as you start to ascend into a starting position, if you will.
Spencer didn’t have that afforded to him. I just mentioned the freshmen. Them being in isolation, basically all of our guys were in some form or fashion. It just hasn’t been normal.
I can’t say enough about him. We’re really pleased with what he’s doing. We think he’s on the right path, got a good feel out there, good sense. He’s going to make mistakes, every player does. Every new players certainly makes mistakes.
As coaches we’ve seen enough of him pretty extensively. All we can do is compare him to guys that have come through. We think he’s got the right attributes to be a really good quarterback for us. The next step is actually doing it on the field.
I just alluded to that, the Penn State game in ’02. You go back two weeks before that game, we had a total meltdown. Brad Banks was pretty much at the center of it. I think it’s one of the greatest stories in college football, my personal opinion, I’m a little biased. A lot of guys would have tanked it after that meltdown. Bad day for him, bad day for our whole team. Quarterbacks always feel more responsibility.
That’s the essence of Brad Banks. He got right back up on his feet, went to work with a great attitude. He’s the reason we beat Penn State in 2002 and proceeded to run the table on the conference. He was our MVP, AP Player of the Year, Big Ten Player of the Year. That’s a guy who failed miserably in week three or four, whatever it might have been. That’s football. That’s life. That’s what you learn from.
I’m not predicting Spencer is going to have a meltdown. I hope that doesn’t happen. If it does, we’re not going to abandon ship because we’ve seen enough of him, just like we saw enough of Brad, go right down the list. That’s how this game is. It’s a hard game. It humbles you. It’s all about what you do when the stuff hits the fan a little bit.